ops save your breath i tried to earlier to convince "them" that its not that renegade is dead but the lack of, for the most part, the bc leadership that thier population is declining. and ofcourse they would have none of that. dont get all up in my grill yall and start with the excuses and name calling....sinking down to my level just proves my point all the more. still love alot of the people who hang around tho and heres to the many who got smart and left on good terms or bad!!!!! i <3 grammer if you couldnt tell